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Post by undecidedls on Apr 16, 2014 20:57:39 GMT -8
Hello, I'm new to Los Angeles and considering law school. if you have any tips please let me know. Where do I start?
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Post by LAWLAW on Apr 17, 2014 7:55:19 GMT -8
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Post by LAWLAW on Apr 17, 2014 7:56:21 GMT -8
Oh, and personally, in LA, I wouldn't take anything but UCLA and USC and even then, only with money.
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Post by Reasonable Stout on Apr 17, 2014 11:09:50 GMT -8
Hi Undecided, welcome to LALS! For the most part I agree with LALAW, with the exception that depending on your needs, a T2 or even T3 might be right for you. What I found difficult to swallow on many forums is the cookie cutter atmosphere of one way or the highway. We all have different backgrounds and goals, so I think the best way to know how to address your situation is to explain what you're looking for? Tell us a little about you. What is your current UG GPA, have you taken the LSAT? If so, what is your score? Are you an unrepresented minority(URM)?
You don't have to give a specific age, but are you older, or younger? I think that plays a big part in objectives. Older folks like myself are VERY debt adverse. A young, aspiring lawyer fresh out of UG at 22 can enter LS and take on a certain amount of debt if he's in a T-14, or at lest a T1 or even T2 school here in the Los Angeles area. You see, it's all very circumstantial, so tell us about you so we can give an in formed opinion. Thanks and welcome aboard!
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Post by 3L close to freedom. on Apr 19, 2014 14:02:52 GMT -8
Yeah, if you're goal is to feel lucky to get a 40k/yr job with 180k in student loans, then be my guest and don't take the the cookie cutter approach. The reality is you have no idea what it's like until you've been through it. There are very little jobs and they all pay less than being a cop or teacher. Sure there is the opportunity to advance and make a high salary, but the days where it was guaranteed are long over and the loans make it extremely risky. For example, the cop making 52k on just a high school diploma has an extremely higher net income, especially when taking into account student loans. So that 40k is looking more like 18k. But you could always do IBR, it'll just take 25 years. Unless its a full scholarship, without retention being contingent on performance, I wouldn't. I say this and I actually really love the law and law school. The majority don't! And that's purely the financial side. I haven't even gotten into how difficult it is to do well academically. Everyone there is smart, everyone works hard. True at every T1-T2 and some T3's. It's not college where everyone can get an A. There are mandatory curves. Just don't expect to think things will go great cause "hey, I'm a smart kid" that's not going to cut it. Unless your willing to only get 3-4 hours of sleep, assuming you actually want to finish all the work assigned, and start preparing for finals at least 1 month in advance, then I wouldn't. I memorized word for word every Evidence rule in the FRE and state distinctions, as well as the Cali probate code, crim pro, and actually every rule in every class. But, it took me a long time to realize that's what it took. 1.5 years to figure it out. I'm still lucky, because some go 3 years without figuring out how to do well. I just want people to know what it's like. People told me the same thing I'm telling you, and I brushed it off like they were being a-holes. You likely will too. But, I just feel you should know what you're getting into. Ask yourself, can you handle being in the bottom quarter of your class? Will the feelings of inadequacy affect you everyday, day after day? Will you fall into a deep depression and feel like your the dumbest person on Earth? It's easier than you think to end up there. If you do, then it's even harder to dig yourself out.
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Post by Reasonable Stout on Apr 25, 2014 6:40:45 GMT -8
Some really great advice, 3L, thanks for sharing. it really sheds some light on managing expectations.
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